2017 NYC Holden Cup

Discussion in 'Newcastle Knights Lower Grades' started by rhugh89, Oct 29, 2016.

  1. rhugh89

    rhugh89 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2012
    Posts:
    22,011
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Brisbane
    NRL Holden Cup under-20s competition to end in season 2017


    AAP
    October 28, 2016 4:32pm



    [​IMG]
    [FONT=&amp]THE NRL’s under-20s competition will be scrapped at the end of next year, Australian Rugby League Commission chairman John Grant has confirmed.

    The youth competition has been on borrowed time since former NRL head of strategy Shane Richardson’s whole-of-game review last year but there was speculation it may continue beyond 2017 in some capacity.

    Instead, statewide under-20s competitions will be rolled out in NSW and Queensland, while the NSW and Queensland Cups will be expanded to take on an “elevated” role in rugby league’s development pathway, Grant said.

    “They’ll be more on television, there’s going to be more clubs in the competition and there’s going to be stronger connections through to the NRL clubs to make sure we get players from the NRL who aren’t playing for their team each weekend to come back into the tier two competition,” Grant told reporters in Brisbane on Friday.

    The national under-20s competition has been plagued by concerns it is not an adequate finishing school and puts undue pressure on young players.

    Grant defended the ARL Commission’s attempts to limit the earning capacity of NRL rookies as negotiations continue over a new collective bargaining agreement.

    The Rugby League Players’ Association is philosophically opposed to capping salaries but Grant said it was a sensible way to fix to a clear problem.

    “The fact is we take young men in our game away from their homes too early, we put them into intensive competitions, we ask too much of them and quite frankly we’ve had some disastrous outcomes,” he said.

    “That’s all about giving them expectations beyond what is reasonable at the time and frankly paying them too much money will do that.

    “We understand the RLPA’s situation and we’ve got an obligation to negotiate with the RLPA around these sort of things. But by the same token, we’re really trying to respond to the issues we’ve got.”


    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...7/news-story/4db054174a5f66f3c6194519378f418a
    [/FONT][FONT=&amp]
    [/FONT]
     
  2. landy97

    landy97 Matt Hilder

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2015
    Posts:
    35
    So has any body noticed how many boys have moved on?
    All moved for better ops n heaps more money!
    The boys pez loves are getting good money!
    The other ones are like monkeys!!!!! Getting Peanuts
    Shame he dosent support local kids in front of imports more!
    4
     
  3. Steven

    Steven Rodney Howe

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2011
    Posts:
    379
    Todd Lowrie our coach did pretty good at the start of the year, but then we fell away at the end.
     
  4. josh2010

    josh2010 Up The Knights!!!!! Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Posts:
    6,686
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Sydney
    Matt Johns son Jack has joined our U20s side!
     
  5. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Posts:
    10,649
    So with the profiles that are up, the best side we could name next year;

    1 Meaney
    2 Farr
    3 Penn
    4 Denniss
    5 Musgrove
    6 Lamb
    7 Cogger
    8 Butterfield
    9 Starling
    10 Dawson
    11 Sam Stone
    12 Brodie Jones
    13 Kurtis Dark

    14 Birch
    15 Tuilotolava
    16 Heath Gibbs
    17 Hosking
     
  6. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Posts:
    10,649
    One question about the squad named for NYC is where is Pasami Saulo?
    He won every award going in Ball last year and played for Australia and NSW.
    He might be playing Ball and concentrating on his HSC, so not doing an NYC pre season.
    But he also might have been poached. I hope not.
    He had close to the perfect junior year in 2016.
    He was starting prop for NSW under 18s and Australian schoolboys, led of SG Ball side to some very good results, won all the major awards for our Ball squad, including the Carlsen/Johns award as our best junior - and also managed to run over 100 metres in his first game of NYC as a bench prop.
    I suppose he could be playing another year of Ball and concentrating on his HSC, as some 17/18 year olds do.
     
  7. mullenmagic

    mullenmagic Justin Holbrook

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2013
    Posts:
    1,379
    Location:
    Newcastle
  8. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Posts:
    10,649
  9. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Posts:
    10,649
    So our best possible under 20s side from the profile pics that are up,

    Nick Meaney
    Musgrove
    Cory Denniss
    Henry Penn
    Dean Kouka-Smith
    Brock Lamb
    Jack Cogger
    Butterfield
    Tom Starling
    Keanu Dawson
    Sam Stone
    Eddie Tuilotolava
    Brodie Jones

    ???? bench hooker
    Heath Gibbs
    Cameron King
    Zac Hoskings

    But it wouldn't surprize me if most, if not all, those guys are playing either firsts or reserves for most of the year.
     
  10. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Posts:
    10,649
  11. rhugh89

    rhugh89 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2012
    Posts:
    22,011
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Brisbane
    2017 Newcastle Knights NYC Draw

    Round 1


    Warriors v Newcastle Knights - Sun 5 Mar 9:45AM at Mt Smart Stadium

    Round 2

    Newcastle Knights v Gold Coast Titans - Sat 11 Mar 10:45AM at McDonald Jones Stadium

    Round 3

    Newcastle Knights v South Sydney Rabbitohs - Sat 18 Mar 12:15PM at McDonald Jones Stadium

    Round 4

    Penrith Panthers v Newcastle Knights - Fri 24 Mar 3:45PM at Pepper Stadium

    Round 5

    Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks v Newcastle Knights - Sat 1 Apr 10:45AM at Southern Cross Group Stadium

    Round 6

    Newcastle Knights v Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs - Fri 7 Apr 3:45PM at McDonald Jones Stadium

    Round 7

    Newcastle Knights v Sydney Roosters - Fri 14 Apr 3:45PM at McDonald Jones Stadium

    Round 8

    North Queensland Cowboys v Newcastle Knights - Sat 22 Apr 3:15PM at 1300SMILES Stadium

    Round 9

    Gold Coast Titans v Newcastle Knights - Sat 29 Apr 12:40PM at Cbus Super Stadium

    Round 10

    Newcastle Knights v Canberra Raiders - Sun 14 May 11:45AM at McDonald Jones Stadium

    Round 11

    Newcastle Knights v Penrith Panthers - Sun 21 May 9:45AM at McDonald Jones Stadium

    Round 12

    Newcastle Knights - BYE

    Round 13

    Melbourne Storm v Newcastle Knights - Sat 3 Jun 2:45PM at Sunshine Coast Stadium

    Round 14

    Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles v Newcastle Knights - Fri 9 Jun 3:45PM at Brookvale Oval

    Round 15

    Newcastle Knights - BYE

    Round 16

    St George Illawarra Dragons v Newcastle Knights - Sun 25 Jun 11:45AM at UOW Jubilee Oval

    Round 17

    Newcastle Knights v Wests Tigers - Sun 2 Jul 11:45AM at McDonald Jones Stadium

    Round 18

    Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs v Newcastle Knights - Sun 9 Jul 11:30AM at Belmore Sports Ground

    Round 19

    Newcastle Knights v Brisbane Broncos - Sat 15 Jul 1:15PM at McDonald Jones Stadium

    Round 20

    Sydney Roosters v Newcastle Knights - Fri 21 Jul 3:45PM at Allianz Stadium

    Round 21

    Newcastle Knights v St George Illawarra Dragons - TBC at McDonald Jones Stadium

    Round 22

    Newcastle Knights v Warriors -
    TBC at McDonald Jones Stadium

    Round 23

    Parramatta Eels v Newcastle Knights -
    TBC at ANZ Stadium

    Round 24

    Newcastle Knights v Melbourne Storm -
    TBC at McDonald Jones Stadium

    Round 25

    Canberra Raiders v Newcastle Knights -
    TBC at McDonald Jones Stadium

    Round 26

    Newcastle Knights v Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks -
    TBC at McDonald Jones Stadium
     
  12. Matty23

    Matty23 Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2010
    Posts:
    6,231
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retail
    Location:
    Port Macquarie
    It'd be interesting to see how Jack Johns goes. If he wants to have a career anything like Matthew or even Joey he'd have to play out of his skin all while competing with Cogger, Lamb and eventually Feeney, Pearsall etc if he makes it that far.
     
  13. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Posts:
    10,649
    He has to get past O'Hagan, Birch and Hoy who have all played for NSW and Josh Ralph who has played for Qld as well.
    I think Johns' best chance is if Meaney plays reserve grade and Johns plays fullback in NYC.
     
  14. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Posts:
    10,649
    New profile pics have gone up for NYC.
    Matt Croker and Tex Hoy have been removed - I assume they have joined the SG Ball squad for now.
    Pasami Saulo has been added. He would have always been in the squad - just someone didn't have a pic for him or something.
     
  15. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Posts:
    10,649
    Matt Cooper has been added to the NYC profiles.
     
  16. Defender1

    Defender1 Timana Tahu

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2010
    Posts:
    3,029
    Location:
    Hunter Valley
    Keanu Dawson who's coming from the Warriors looks like a beast!
     
  17. newy guy29

    newy guy29 Glen Frendo

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2014
    Posts:
    62
    Occupation:
    real eastate
    Location:
    charlestown
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but when did Hoy & Birch play for Nsw.? Yes they were both in the Nsw pathways squads but neither were selected too play Origin
     
  18. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Posts:
    10,649
    We had so many players make squads and teams over the last few years I can't keep track of them anymore.
    I think we had the most players in both the under 16s and under 18s squads last year - something like 12 or 13 players, plus 3 in the schoolboys team I think. Only a few years ago we would get maybe 2 or 3 players and it was easy to remember who made teams, but now it's like you have to write it all down to even remember who made squads.
     
  19. landy97

    landy97 Matt Hilder

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2015
    Posts:
    35
    correct! and mussie was there as well! The boys are close!

    - - - Updated - - -

    So who watched the trial?
    Any thaughts?
    The new recruits did not mate up to their impressive Bios!
     
  20. rhugh89

    rhugh89 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2012
    Posts:
    22,011
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Brisbane
    The Knights have named their NYC squad to play a trial against the Raiders this Sunday

    [FONT=&amp]NYC CANBERRA RAIDERS v NYC NEWCASTLE KNIGHTS
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=&amp]Date: Sunday February 19
    Venue: New Era Stadium, Cabramatta
    Kick-off: 4pm
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=&amp]1. Matt Cooper[/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]2. Mitch Andrews[/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]3. Heath Gibbs[/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]4. Brayden Musgrove[/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]5. Lachlan Farr[/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]6. Jack Johns[/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]7. Hayden Loughrey[/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]8. Jayden Butterfield[/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]9. Tom Starling[/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]10. Viko Puliuvea[/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]11. Sam McIntyre[/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]12. Henry Penn[/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]13. Zac Hosking
    [/FONT]

    14. Brendan O’Hagan
    15. Nash Birch
    16. Eddy Tuilotolava
    17. Cameron King
    18. Tavita Fesolai
    19. Dylan Clark
    20. Keanu Dawson
    21. Pasami Saulo
    22. Kurtis Dark
    23. Dean Kouka-Smith
    24. Will Davies


    http://www.newcastleknights.com.au/news/2017/02/16/knights_name_reserve.html
     

Share This Page