Andrew 'Joey' Johns
2014 Harold Matts & SG Ball Thread
Here are the squads, both will get trimmed over summer.
A change of coach by the looks of things for SG Ball.
A fair few names from the squads have either stepped up from Harold Matts to SG Ball or repeat another year in the same comp, highlighted in bold:
U18s SG Ball
Coaches: Trevor Ott and Todd Edwards
Assistant Coach: Ben Jefferies
U16s Harold Matthews
Coach: Anthony Gleeson
Assistant Coaches: Matt Marks and Justin Stewart
Malik Deyalou is the player I think can improve a lot on this year. He looks like an African version of Uate and was pretty green this year.
Don't know what they are going to do with all those halves in under 18s. You would think we would have to play current NSW and Aust under 16s pair of Cogger and Lamb, but Walsh and McNamara would be just as good and both have big futures.
Do you have a list for the 2014 nyc squad?
Originally Posted by Alicia
Andrew 'Joey' Johns
No but I assume it will be the same as this year where there will be about 40+ players.
Originally Posted by footy legend
Dylan jones from this years ball squad is in
Luke Yates Bryce Donovan Nathan lomonaco
Josh birch Jacob gagai all included
Next generation Knights kick off trial
By Matt Logue
Thursday 12 December 2013 4:07 PM
Knights' Harold Matthews Player of the Year, Charlie Woods at this year's presentation night. Charlie has stepped up to the SG Ball ranks and will play against the Central Coast at Wyong on Friday night.
If you're itching for some rugby league action after a long pre-season, then do yourself a favour at get to Morrie Breen Oval in Wyong on Friday.
This will be the scene where the Newcastle Knights SG Ball and Harold Matthews sides officially kick-off preparations for next season with two trial matches against the Central Coast.
Knights Harold Matthews coach Tony Gleeson says the trials will provide an invaluable opportunity for some of the Club's most promising young players to showcase their skills and prove they are worthy of a call-up in 2014.
“All the kids have been training so well, so we’ve told them this is a big opportunity for them to just rip in and show us what they’ve got," Gleeson says.
“With the way we’ve been training, we just want to have a look at them in a game situation.
“So everyone is very enthusiastic and keen to go."
The Harold Matthews side got knocked out in first round of the finals last season and Gleeson says this year's squad are keen to go further next year.
This optimism is fuelled by the fact the team has picked up a host of fresh faces from some of Newcastle's biggest schools, including Hunter Sports High.
Throw in representation from across the Newcastle region and even as far as the Central Coast and you can understand why Gleeson is excited for a big 2014.
"We are looking pretty strong actually," he enthuses.
"We’ve got a pretty big side and some skilful players around it as well.
"So it is going to be interesting to see how it all comes together.
"There are a lot of good kids from all across the park.
"Central Coast has got a bit of talent there as well, so it’s going to be a really tough game I think.
"There is a bit of rivalry there between the two clubs, so it’s a local derby and it will be a great night to go out and watch a bit of footy before Christmas."
The Harold Matthews side kick-off at 5pm, while the SG Ball side will commence proceedings from 6.15pm.
Both matches will be played in three 20 minute quarters.
They usually hold this first trial against central coast at Dora Creek, but i suppose Morrie Breen is better - at least i should be able to get a seat in the shade - Dora Creek is always packed and i end up sunburnt.
trial v manly at Dora creek still going ahead
Originally Posted by Billy
Mathews was a good game. I think it ended up 8 tries to 2 to us.
The big difference was defence. Our boys were all over them in defence and only gave up a couple of tries towards the end when the best players were mostly off.
I left after 20 minutes of Ball. It was a quality game and was tied up at 1 try each after 20. We were the better side, but only just.
Interesting halves. Brock Lamb was the 7 and didn't do much kicking, and I think it was Tyrone Walsh in the 6 doing most of the kicking.
Young Knights kick off trials in style
By Matt Logue
Monday 16 December 2013 2:23 PM
It may have been their first taste of football after a long pre-season, but this didn't stop the Newcastle Knights junior teams from putting on a show in their opening trials against the Central Coast at Morrie Breen Oval in Wyong last Friday.
On the back of quality all-round performances, both the Harold Matthews and SG Ball outfits recorded impressive wins to start their preparations for 2014 with a bang.
The Knights' Harold Matthews side charged to an emphatic eight tries to two victory over the Central Coast and coach Tony Gleeson couldn't have been happier with the first up effort.
“It was a good performance,” Gleeson says.
“We were a bit rusty in the first 20 with the boys not having played any games for a while.
“But after that we sort of got into a bit of a rhythm and practiced a few of the things we’ve been doing at training.
“There are some encouraging signs there."
Gleeson was particularly impressed with the performance of his big men up front, nominating props Pasami Saulo, Jack Lumby and Trust Ledger as the standouts.
“I thought all our middle third guys were really good," he says.
“Pasami was really surprising actually and he went really well, while our other props Lumby and Ledger also did well.”
In the other match, the SG Ball side recorded a much closer six tries to five win over the Central Coast.
Coach Trevor Ott was pleased with the hard fought victory, but admits the team still has plenty of work to do before the season proper.
“It was a pretty evenly matched trial and I was happy overall with how they went," Ott says.
"Jack Mackin at fullback, Jake McNamara and Brock Lamb in the halves were all impressive, while Tyrone Amey in the front row was very good as well.
"It's just about getting a few combinations going forward now, because we've still got a bit to still work on."
Both the Harold Matthews and SG Ball teams will have a break over Christmas, before returning in the New Year for a number of trials starting with a clash against the Wests Magpies on January 18.
Must have been McNamara doing most of the playmaking in Ball then. He would be about the fourth string playmaker behind Cogger, Lamb and Walsh, so it would have been a trial thing to give him so much responsibility.
McNamara is a pretty good player. I think he plays a lot of positions, and I think he'll need to play somewhere - just not sure where.
Last edited by Billy; 16-12-2013 at 04:30 PM.
Haven't really followed the Matts or Ball Leagues the last couple of years may go and watch the boys play sometimes this season
Six Knights make 16-18 Emerging Blues
By Matt Logue
Monday 16 December 2013 9:00 AM
Six of the most exciting young Newcastle Knights players have been rewarded with selection in the Under 16-18 Blues in Waiting squad.
Ngangarra Barker, Jack Cogger, Jobey Ingram, Brock Lamb, Tyrone Amey and Jake McNamara will all take part in a one-day camp at the NSWRL Centre of Excellence in Narrabeen in Sydney on January 9.
The camp will see 60 of Australia's most promising players take part in two skills sessions, presentations on Origin culture and lectures on sports science and team leadership.
Knights High Performance Unit Coach Troy Pezet is thrilled for the players selected and hopes it inspires them to reach even greater heights in 2014.
"It’s just good recognition for the hard work that they’ve done since they were 15 and making some state sides and selection trials," Pezet says.
"It gives further credence to our high performance unit and shows that is obviously working when we are getting six kids from that unit through to this level.
"We had six kids represent NSW at 15s level schoolboy this year, so we’ll be hoping that will flow on as well."
The Knights have a long history of producing representative quality footballers over the years and Pezet has no doubts this will continue next season.
"Cogger and Lamb played in the NSW under 16s game before Origin 2 this year, so we will be looking for big efforts from them next year in the SG Ball squad," he continues.
"Barker and Ingram played really well in the trial, but were unlucky to miss out on selection.
"And Amey and McNamara are also ready for strong years, especially with leadership in a young SG Ball squad and they also might possibly play some NYC later in the year."
The 16-18 years Emerging Blues Camp is the second of three pre-season camps held by Daley and his coaching staff.
The 18-20 years Emerging Blues Camp was recently held over two days at Narrabeen with the final Blues in Waiting Camp, for NRL players, to be held at Coogee from Friday January 17 through until Sunday January 19.
Young Knights in Blues in Waiting squad:
Tyrone Amey (South Lakes)
Ngangarra Barker (Raymond Terrace)
Jack Cogger (Toukley)
Jobey Ingram (Kurri Kurri)
Brock Lamb (West Maitland)
Jake McNamara (Lake Cathie- Bonny Hills)
Last edited by rhugh89; 17-12-2013 at 06:37 PM.
Lamb has a huge head - not calling him a bighead - but he physically has a huge head.
He looks bigger than Gidley in that pic, and in the under 16s he was as big as most of the forwards.
I've only heard of Cogger, Lamb and Barker but they all seem to be incredibly talented players. If Cogger and Lamb are already the halves for Australia and NSW schoolboys and best mates I can't wait to see them out playing in the 20's for us over the next few years.