Round 14 NSW Cup & NYC Thread

[knight-no-7]

Newcastle Knights V Nth Queensland Cowboys
Dairy Farmers Stadium

NYC
Monday 16 June, 2008
Kick Off : 4:45pm

Coach : Trent Robinson

Marty Paulson
Peter Mata’utia
Daniel Isaac
Simon Williams
Jared Edwards
Ryan Stig
Joel Burraston
Scott Dobbins
Joel Brown
Joel Edwards
Callan Richardson (c)
Zane Tetavano
Jason Schirnack

Interchange:

Byron Fruean
Mitchell Garbutt
Joseph Iosefo
James McClory
Ben Wyborn
Knights Website.

[-AK-]

Come back Roopy! We need your help with this :lol:

Garbutt & Stig return. The Cowboys I don't think have won a game in this comp. If we lose, Season over.

[TSS9]

Probably the best team we have had named all season.

We have Peter Mata’utia, Daniel Isaac, Ryan Stig and Mitchell Garbutt back and they are all great players. Also good to see the Return of Joel Burraston, He will add some creativity to the side. To sum it up the side looks great.

[Frizzed]

Probably the best team we have had named all season.

We have Peter Mata’utia, Daniel Isaac, Ryan Stig and Mitchell Garbutt back and they are all great players. Also good to see the Return of Joel Burraston, He will add some creativity to the side. To sum it up the side looks great.

Agree with everything you say there, good post.

[knight-no-7]

NSW Cup Central Knights V Windsor Wolves
Tuesday, 10 June 2008 - Newcastle Knights

Central Newcastle Knights V Windsor Wolves
Windsor Sportsground, Windsor
NSW CUP

Saturday 14 June, 2008
Kick Off : 6pm

Coach : Rick Stone

Stephen Gordon
Akuila Uate
Luke MacDougall
Keith Lulia
Teason Faavele-Eli
Marvin Karawana
Luke Walsh
Matt White
Michael Young (c)
Sione Finefuaiki
Tanu Wulf
Mark Taufua
Jacob Ling

Interchange:

Faitotoa Asa
Tim Natusch
Lui Toimoana
Manaia Osborne
Hanan Laban
Knights Website

[Frizzed]

I'm going to the NSW cup game, I'll finally get to see this myth they call Akulia Uate.

[TSS9]

NSW Cup Central Knights V Windsor Wolves
Tuesday, 10 June 2008 - Newcastle Knights

Central Newcastle Knights V Windsor Wolves
Windsor Sportsground, Windsor
NSW CUP

Saturday 14 June, 2008
Kick Off : 6pm

Coach : Rick Stone

Stephen Gordon
Akuila Uate
Luke MacDougall
Keith Lulia
Teason Faavele-Eli
Marvin Karawana
Luke Walsh
Matt White
Michael Young (c)
Sione Finefuaiki
Tanu Wulf
Mark Taufua
Jacob Ling

Interchange:

Faitotoa Asa
Tim Natusch
Lui Toimoana
Manaia Osborne
Hanan Laban

Knights Website

Loving this team. It also seems Mika must be injured which is a shame.

[jamesgould]

Come back Roopy! We need your help with this :lol:

This forum is lame without Roopy. :(

[~knights1~]

come back roopy :)

[Pumba]

come back roopy :)

Roops won't be back.

[TSS9]

Its okay we got El Presidente now.

[TippleNickler]

Its okay we got El Presidente now.

Yeah, they seem eerily similar. :lol:

[TippleNickler]

Probably the best team we have had named all season.

We have Peter Mata’utia, Daniel Isaac, Ryan Stig and Mitchell Garbutt back and they are all great players. Also good to see the Return of Joel Burraston, He will add some creativity to the side. To sum it up the side looks great.

Yep, it's a pretty good looking team. It's good to see all those guys back, especially Stig. Man I love that guy. :razz:

On a side note, do you know how long Tovo's out for?

[TippleNickler]

Loving this team. It also seems Mika must be injured which is a shame.

Yeah, it's a shame Mika's out, but it's good to see Natusch back in the side though.

[-AK-]

I might go to this, most have first grade experience.

And I want to see all the Uate talk, what all the fuss is about. :lol:

[TSS9]

Yep, it's a pretty good looking team. It's good to see all those guys back, especially Stig. Man I love that guy. :razz:

On a side note, do you know how long Tovo's out for?

No idea, Sorry mate.

[jamesgould]

Yeah, they seem eerily similar. :lol:

They are no relation to each other whatsoever.

[-AK-]

Jarrod Sammut has been dropped by Penrith to play in this game just to add abit more excitement to the game.

Still keen on getting out there if possible.

[~knights1~]

so AK and frizzed are you 2 still going to the game tonight

if so

can you get pics and a match report :razz:

[-AK-]

I'm buying a good camera this arvo and might head to the game.

It's not very important but Il be happy to send text updates.

[~knights1~]

Is scotty dureau playing nsw cup???

[knight-no-7]

Yea, just got a text from AK.

Dureau, Sau and Ciraldo all playing NSW CUP.

[~knights1~]

I thought so

I heard a rumour that scotty was going to play

but didn't want to post it ,lol

[~knights1~]

Is scotty taking walshy's spot or playing hooker????

[knight-no-7]

Halfback. Its 16-12 after 33mins

[knight-no-7]

Half Time - 16 all.

Tries to Dureau, Wulf and Lulia.

[pommieknight]

I hope Aku has a good game with AK and Frizzed both there.

[knight-no-7]

Well Ak left early:

last txt:

I left when it was 42-16 to Windsor. Our First Graders are myths.

[~knights1~]

oh dear

what a thrashing

I wonder what the end score will be

[-AK-]

Arrrgghh back. What a disgrace...

1. Gordon: Was good verbally, but nothing more... he got injured late in the 2nd half.
2. Uate: Made good runs, cant catch a high ball for shyt. Boy his got some speed!
19. Sau: Sau replaced Mad Pup in this one and was solid on his side.
4. Lulia: FMD he was sooo bad. He knocked on a few times, his defence was poor. He will be in that team for a while put it that way. He dropped the ball from a cutout pass.
5. Teason: Didn't see much of him, cant comment.
6. Karawana: I don't know where we were playing him and didnt see much of him.
7. Walsh: A MYTH, kicked out on the full a couple of times, got smashed. Got trampled on, his deadset losing weight.

22. Dureau: This shocked me, lets just say... he hasnt improved on his previous performances. Defensively he looked alright, but attack was dead... Knocked on once and kicked out on the full again.

23. Ciraldo: I didn't even notice him, he was dropping off tackles and never rarely got the ball.

The only guy I thought was good was Natusch.

The guys who should have stood up as they have NRL experience looked worse then the usual NSW Cup players tonight.

[~knightsgirljess~]

so where is walsh does anyone know?

[-AK-]

so where is walsh does anyone know?

He played in the halves tonight but as I said... was poo. :doubt:

I cant see him playing FG anytime soon.

[~knightsgirljess~]

Hang on so both walsh and Dureau were in the team? Smith must be sick of Dureau's attitude and performances

[~knights1~]

scotty hasn't been the same since his injury

shame about walshy :(

and lulia has bad handling sometimes

[-AK-]

It was as if Lulia pretty much said 'Hey ball, go over the touchline' :lol: He just left it.

That night drived me insane, I wonder what Frizzed would say!

[~knights1~]

did they just 'give up' or were they trying

[-AK-]

did they just 'give up' or were they trying

Gave up. It was 16 all at Half time and then bang Lulia knocks on. They score... then again off the kick off. Then ripped up the middle with no markers.

It was just poor really... a shame.

[~knights1~]

seems like you were disappointed with lulia

you were bit of a fan of him weren't you???

[-AK-]

Yeh I was... but he is just not alert. It's like his lost in the side.

Aku would rather let the ball bounce and use his speed to chase it.

It works sometimes, but he let in a try by doing it too.

[TippleNickler]

Can't believe both Dureau and Sau ended up playing NSWC. I was going to go to this game seeing as though it was only at Windsor, but just didn't end up going. Got caught watching the Sharks vs Warriors in NYC and FG. I really wish I ended up going.

Wierd how you say Lulia had crap defence tonight AK. When in FG, his defence was pretty good I thought. Was rarely caught out of position and never really made the wrong reads in defence. He also never really missed many tackles. Pretty surprising if true.

[knight-no-7]

oh dear

what a thrashing

I wonder what the end score will be

The final score was 42-16

Central Newcastle 16 defeated by Windsor Wolves 42

[El Presidente]

Scott Dureau is finally back at the level where he belongs.

Knights fans got very carried away with a couple of decent games from a player with very limited ability.

The last couple of rounds have found out Dureau and his first grade ability ( or lack of ).

His game against the Warriors was just about the worst performance from any halfback from any team in the NRL all year.

If Bailey and Mullen continue to play well, don't expect Dureau back anytime soon.

[jamesgould]

Sounds to me like you are getting carried away with a couple of bad performances by Dereau! Like it or not, he is our future halfback. And he definitely has the talent required to do that.

[aidogz]

Well with Bailey gone he is and we are going to have to give him all the best in the halves with mullen/gidley

[El Presidente]

Sounds to me like you are getting carried away with a couple of bad performances by Dereau! Like it or not, he is our future halfback. And he definitely has the talent required to do that.


No actually, its the other way around. Knights fans got carried away over a couple of GOOD performances by Dureau and put him up on this pedestal which he didn't deserve to be on.

He has never struck me at any time of his career, in juniors, reserve grade, or anywhere else, that he has the qualities to make a first grade standard halfback in the NRL. He is a good solid halfback, but we are talking about the NRL - not park football. Glance around at the other teams halves and see where Dureau stacks up in comparison.

His kicking game at times can be atrocious, his defence is a massive weakness, and he has no tackle busting or line break abilities to speak of at all - and never has. Even his passing can be ordinary at times.

His one big assett is his ability to organise. That alone is not enough to be a first grade half.

A couple of solid games and a game winning field goal does not make a first grade footballer.

Like Matthew Johns and Peter Sterling, I could not understand why Dureau was put back into the side after injury when the Bailey/Mullen combo was scoring more points, and looking more dangerous in attack.

When Dureau was our half earlier in the season, our attack looked good for 12 points a game.

It is obvious that our best football this year has been playing with Bailey/Mullen.

And this week, common sense prevailed, because finally Brian Smith agrees , and thats shown by Dureau playing reserve grade, and Mullen-Bailey taking the reins for the Cowboys game.

[-AK-]

I agree with EP... When Dureau kicked that field goal it seems some people straight away thought he was great, but since then has dropped off alot.

A few games in NSW Cup will do him good. Last night he was so poor.

Bailey/Mullen/Gidley is enough attacking for the Knights and defensively they are big across the park.

[TippleNickler]

Funny you say that. Saying that Dureau isn't a quality half yet we should shift Mullen into the centres. Seems pretty silly to me. Bailey can't do it all on his own in the halves you know, and he can't wear both the 7 and 6 jersey at once either.

Oh, and you should thank Smithy for the inside info he obviously gave you regarding the halves situation: "If Bailey and Mullen continue to play well, don't expect Dureau back anytime soon."

[-AK-]

Yep, EP Well Done on that Info.

Bailey & Mullen combo is working nicely. Dureau is quality... but at the moment, we have better players in FG.

[~knightsgirljess~]

Agreed Dureau has dropped off alot since the field goal but as james said we signed him and he is our future (mind u last year we were saying the same about walsh so god knows what will happen next year)! We blew it i think we needed to keep Bailey he wil be the one thing the knights management will wish they had soughted and signed

[aidogz]

He was only seen as a quality player after the field goal, but anyone standing there could've got that so after that he became a little over rated

[TippleNickler]

I agree with EP... When Dureau kicked that field goal it seems some people straight away thought he was great, but since then has dropped off alot.

A few games in NSW Cup will do him good. Last night he was so poor.

Bailey/Mullen/Gidley is enough attacking for the Knights and defensively they are big across the park.

He was playing some good footy before his injury, and if you couldn't see that, than I don't know what Newcastle games you were watching.

He's been playing pretty average since he came back from his injury, but he did a decent job filling in at hooker with Hilder when Bedsey was out because of SOO.

Maybe a few weeks in NSWC will do him good, but I think he's lacking confidence at the moment, well it certainly looks that way to me.

I'm not saying he's some great half or he's a future HOF, but he was doing his job and doing it well. You can't take that away from him after a couple of suspect games and say he has no talent or that he's not cut out for FG (not directed at you AK).

[-AK-]

I think we should go for Terry Campese... he'd be expensive but he's very good! And even looks like Bailey :lol:

He was playing some good footy before his injury, and if you couldn't see that, than I don't know what Newcastle games you were watching.

No one said he wasn't playing well. But you just nailed it, since his injury he's been terrible.

And from what I saw from him last night... he will stay in NSW Cup for a while. He struggled to break the line, knocked on under no pressure. Kicked the ball out on the full twice.

[~knightsgirljess~]

I dont think anyone thinks he isnt cut out for fg! I think its his attitude since signing the new contract He got the contract and eased up on the intensity of his play a few weeks in reggies will make him see even though he has the contract he can be dropped. Its like a warning and i think he'l come back a better player for it

[-AK-]

If there is one bloke who can bounce back after being dropped. It's S. Dureau.

It's not as if it's the end for him.

I tell you though. I cant see Luke Walsh playing FG anytime soon. He's sooo small :lol:

[TippleNickler]

No one said he wasn't playing well. But you just nailed it, since his injury he's been terrible.

And from what I saw from him last night... he will stay in NSW Cup for a while. He struggled to break the line, knocked on under no pressure. Kicked the ball out on the full twice.

Sorry if I'm not going to buy into what you say 100%, because after all, you were saying only a week or two ago that Houston should be dropped for no apparent reason when at the beginning of the season you along with everyone else were saying that he was our best buy, but if you're correct and he had a skocker in NSWC, than I don't know what's going on with him. I do think he's playing with little or no confidence at the moment, so I think he needs to get that back.

You said he only kicked it out on the full once last night aswell in your previous post about the game.

[~knightsgirljess~]

Yeah he is isnt he! he trys so hard to put weight on, smith last year told him to eat more and watch tv more become more lazy but thats just not luke he can't sit still!
Its a shame because he has talent his size is just going to let him down and as much as i hate to admit it (i'm like his number 1 supporter) i dont think we will see him this year either

[-AK-]

Sorry if I'm not going to buy into what you say 100%, because after all, you were saying only a week or two ago that Houston should be dropped for no apparent reason when at the beginning of the season you along with everyone else were saying that he was our best buy, but if you're correct and he had a skocker in NSWC, than I don't know what's going on with him. I do think he's playing with little or no confidence at the moment, so I think he needs to get that back.

You said he only kicked it out on the full once last night aswell in your previous post about the game.

You have too much time on your hands. You seem to intimidate others with what they previously say. I don't know what your trying to do on here but your manipulating members and it's not on.

Houston has got nothing to do with this, SD was bad last night... if you don't believe it. Go Jump.

[~knightsgirljess~]

Sorry if I'm not going to buy into what you say 100%, because after all, you were saying only a week or two ago that Houston should be dropped for no apparent reason when at the beginning of the season you along with everyone else were saying that he was our best buy, but if you're correct and he had a skocker in NSWC, than I don't know what's going on with him. I do think he's playing with little or no confidence at the moment, so I think he needs to get that back.

You said he only kicked it out on the full once last night aswell in your previous post about the game.

You were'nt there AK was, if you aren't gonna buy into what she writes than dont read it! simple

[TippleNickler]

If there is one bloke who can bounce back after being dropped. It's S. Dureau.

It's not as if it's the end for him.

I tell you though. I cant see Luke Walsh playing FG anytime soon. He's sooo small :lol:

He played at that size last year you know, and everyone absolutely loved him. Walsh is not a bad player, and I don't know why no one likes him anymore. It's like since he was injured in the off-season and couldn't really fight for his position in FG, everyone's been turned off him.

He has suspect defence though he's a good attacking player who doesn't have a bad kicking game. For his size, he's not afraid to mix it up in there or get hit either.

It's like since one person on here said he/she didn't like him, everyone else jumped on the bandwagon. Same with Uate. Everyone's brown nosing him big time and people who have never seen him play before are saying play him in FG. Play him off the bench even. It's just ridiculous how people around here change their opinions so quick on a player or form one on a player without ever seeing him play, just because everyone else is saying this and that about so and so.

The majority of people in this forum just jump on the bandwagon with everyone else instead of forming their own opinion.

[-AK-]

Ever since this guy has joined, he's all for stirring others. I mean it's getting old, people say things on forums and what they say previously shouldn't be held against them.

Nothing better to do in their lives obviously.

*Thread Closed*

[-AK-]

NYC kicks off at 4:45pm. Live Scores will be in this thread.

It's Knights (13th) v Cowboys (16th)

Cowboys haven't won a game so far in 2008.

[-AK-]

Cowboys In... Hmm.

Nth QLD Cowboys 4

T: Carr 9m
G:

Newcastle Knights 4

T: Williams 15m
G:

[bboy_555]

Has anyone scored yet, anyone know the score?

Edit: We need to get infront.

[El Presidente]

If the Knights Under 20s let the Cowboys win their first match of the season, then fair dinkum, they might as well forfeit the rest of the year, because they have been pathetic.

[El Presidente]

Edit: We need to get infront.

Thats usually the idea LOL

[-AK-]

Knights in - 20th Minute.

Nth QLD Cowboys 4

T: Chris Faust 16m
G: Jack Cooper 0/1

Newcastle Knights 4

T: Simon Williams 18m
G: Peter Mata'utia 0/1

[Jonno_Knights]

where are u getting updates from Aussie, rleague.com and nrlstats.com arnt working very well.

[El Presidente]

Fox Sports under the NRL subsection is the best.

www.foxsports.com.au

[-AK-]

Yeh, even that is useless though. So delayed. Theyve been playing for 30 mins now.

[-AK-]

Ok, this is weird. FoxSports have got different try scorers to RL.Com

So we might just go with 'unknowns' and find out later.

Halftime

Newcastle Knights 14

T: Williams (2),Unknown
G: Mata'utia 1/3

North QLD Cowboys 10

T: Unknown, Reisen
G: Cooper 1/2

[Jonno_Knights]

i got 14-10 halftime, to the knights :lol:

Williams 2, Edwards one for the knights, and Faust, Reisen for the cowboys.

[Jonno_Knights]

thats rleague.com btw

[-AK-]

Yeh. I got Tetavano try instead of Edwards. Anyhow, 14 - 10.

I must say... we must be down there with Cowboys if we cant get away from them.

[bboy_555]

Thats usually the idea LOL
Yeah :lol:, I ment soon becasue we don't chase down scores well.

[-AK-]

Cowboys 20

Knights 14

Arrghh

[-AK-]

Our NYC is now the worst team in the comp.

26 - 14 to the Cowboys with 15 minutes to go.

[Pumba]

North QLD Cowboys 30
Tries: Chris Faust, Ryan Carr, Chris Reisen, Tom Humble, Brandon Boor
Goals: Jack Cooper (1/3), Chris Reisen (2/3)
DEFEATED
Newcastle Knights 14
Tries: Simon Williams (2), Zane Tetavano
Goals: Peter Mata'utia (1/3)

Chris Faust DID score the try.

Ryan Carr set it up.

Our NYC is now the worst team in the comp.


BUT we are still 4 clear from last.

Which is something to smile about.

[-AK-]

Still a p*ss poor effort.

[Pumba]

Final Scores is unconfirmed.

Foxsports says 30-14, NRL Stats say 26-14.

[knight-no-7]

Great, another shocking performance.

We are no hope for the finals now arent we?

[-AK-]

Where to from now for NYC?

Kev Naiqama made a return in NSW Cup the other night... we got issues alright!

[Pumba]

Where to from now for NYC?

Kev Naiqama made a return in NSW Cup the other night... we got issues alright!
Bottom Lime is.

WE CAN'T WIN IF THE TEAM ISN'T LEFT TO FORM COMBINATIONS!

[Pumba]

Score Confirmed

30-14

[-AK-]

Bottom Lime is.

WE CAN'T WIN IF THE TEAM ISN'T LEFT TO FORM COMBINATIONS!

I still wonder why Richardson isn't in the centres. His a good defender and I know they say he's a future 2nd rower but really, we need him in a number 4.